Why the “Quack Watchers” Need to be Watched

by Bob McCauley, CNC, MH

My Video on the Quack Watchers.

We’ve all seen the websites of the self-proclaimed debunkers of faux science and other myths. They explain to us that, except for the things we personally know to be true, everything we believe to be true is completely false. Almost every rumor we have heard turns out to be an urban myth when it comes to the Quack Watchers and other debunkers. And if something that they denounced turns out to be true, not another word is ever said about it and the debunking web page is quietly removed.

What quack watchers do best is plant doubt in our minds when we are trying to search out the truth about something such as a health issue. It’s easy to be a skeptic. It’s hard to be a believer and even harder to believe in things that others regularly ridicule. Quack Watchers often have a chilling effect on an open debate because of the way they often scoff at the issues they are challenging.

As a whole, we tend to believe the Quack Watchers because we want to believe that we can’t be so easily fooled. And it’s reassuring for us to believe that we are not so easily fooled. We enjoy hearing that the things that may sound a little weird or too good to be true of course could not be true. The most dangerous debunkers are the ones who have a background in science, but little or no experience at all with the subject that they are debunking. Many of the de-bunkers tend to be heavy on their opinion and light on the facts. In fact, they quite often present their opinion as gospel. For instance, when the interpretation of a photo is in question, their analysis is offered as fact, the final report.

I don’t expect the de-bunkers to go away. But we need to understand that many of the claims some have made are no more than one more opinion, not the Last Word. What bothers me is that so many of the debunkers serve nothing more than to confuse us. However, it becomes unsettling when we’re trying to determine the truth about crucial issues such as our health.

Quack Watchers denounce Lorraine Day, M.D. because she dares challenge the medical establishment and tell people that we can heal ourselves if we live on the right diet and have faith in God. They conclude from their Debunkdoms that someone is a crank when in fact they are someone they simply have profound differences with.

When a radical scientific concept is first introduced, there is commonly resistance to it by the prevailing scientific community of the time. New ideas are commonly ridiculed and derided because people become comfortable with ideas and they don’t want to change. Often, the members of the established community must die off so a new generation can be raised with the new concept and accept it from the beginning without any unnecessarily hand-wringing about what they once embraced as the truth that has now been shown to be superseded by the next wave of discovery. The new concept will no longer be described as radical.

My problem with one Quack Watcher is his ridiculous denunciation of Ionized Water as snake oil when, in fact, a staggering amount of research has been done on the effects of Ionized Water, which is produced by running filtered tap water over positive and negative electrodes that produce positive and negative ions in the water that are then separated. Thus, ionization produces two different waters at the same time, one alkaline the other acid.

All of the research done has arrived at the same conclusion: Ionized Water benefits everything it comes in contact with as long as its used correctly. (For instance, don’t drink acid water.) The Quack Watchers who denounce Ionized Water could not be more wrong about it since Ionized Water is one of the most phenomenal inventions of the 20th century for a number of reasons.

Their first mistake is to suggest that only purified water be consumed. Purified water is water without minerals produced by reverse osmosis (RO) or distillation. I have written extensively myself against the practice of consuming purified water.

Water Ionizers are designed to be used with your tap water or bottled water. If you attempt to ionize purified, de-mineralized water, you will not get a change in pH nor will the ORP (oxidation reduction potential) change. Minerals must be present in the water for ionization to take place. With water that contains minerals, ionization changes both of these properties, pH and ORP. Read my article on Ionized Water for a more detailed explanation of its properties.

Ionized Water is very alkaline and helps balance the body’s pH. It is crucial to point out this characteristic when it comes to those who would denounce Ionized Water because we must consume substances that are alkaline to maintain a balanced body pH. Few substances are more alkaline than Ionized Water with an adjustable pH of between 8 and 10. When we acidify ourselves with a processed food diet and a stressful lifestyle, we open ourselves up to every disease imaginable. At a pH of 10, Ionized Water is 100 times more alkaline than the body should be at pH 7. To conclude that consuming a substance which is 100 times more alkaline than the body ought to be is not beneficial to our health is to demonstrate you know nothing about Ionized Water and body pH. The average person is much more acidic than she/he ought to be. Bodily acidity is the door to disease, the unraveling of our health. To ignore the incredible life-saving potential that high pH Ionized Water has to raise our overall body pH is to ignore the facts. Therefore, we need to put extremely alkaline substances into our body in order to offset this incredible acidity we create through poor diet, pollution and stress. Ionized Water has been demonstrated over and over again to raise body pH. How could it not? When we constantly consume soft drinks, which are extremely acid (pH 2.5 ~ approximately 50,000 times more acid than ideal body pH 7.0), we are dropping our body pH. When we consume Ionized Water slowly we raise our body pH until we are in homeostasis or balance.

The Quack Watcher states that the term Ionized Water is meaningless to him. Is he suggesting that ionization, a scientific principle, doesn’t exist? Or is he admitting that he doesn’t know what ionization is? Whether we believe in Ionized Water or not is irrelevant because it is a physical fact that cannot be denied. We can argue philosophy, but not physics and Ionized Water is chemistry and physics and what it does for the body and for our health is undeniable.

He suggests that Ionized Water is simply a placebo, something that we believe is going to change our health when in fact our mind is doing all the work. In other words, Ionized Water has no physiological affect on the body, only a psychological one, which certainly is not the case. Ionized Water balances the body pH and is a powerful antioxidant, hydrator and detoxifier.

This is our first clue that the debunker understands little if anything about Ionized Water. To ionize means to gain or lose an electron and water that has been ionized is water that has these characteristics, that of either having an extra or missing electron. We know this is true by the physical scientific measurements we can make regarding Ionized Water. We can measure changes that ionization causes with both a pH meter and ORP meter. On the alkaline side, the pH is elevated and the ORP is driven into the negative range, which counteracts the oxidation of the body when we consume it.

Tim Bolen runs a website called quackpotwatch.org that has dared to challenge these websites that denounce practically ANYTHING that is not wholly accepted by the medical establishment. In the world of the quack watchers, nothing in the universe is provable unless a double-blind study has been done on it. I often point out that there is absolutely no evidence of chronic disease in the wild, meaning that wild animals do not contract chronic diseases such as cancer, arthritis, diabetes, high blood pressure. I have challenged people to show me evidence of any chronic disease in the wild and no one has yet to produce any. Do we need a double-blind study to determine the obvious? Other than universities, the only industry capable and willing to perform double-blind studies is the pharmaceutical industry. Double-blind studies are enormously expensive, costing hundreds of thousands, even millions of dollars. The pharmaceutical industry is able to afford expensive studies such as these because it is very profitable for them. Studies lead to the release of medical drugs for all kinds of disease that make pharmaceuticals a lot of money. If taking drugs to control disease is the path that you chosen so be it. But drugs and medicine do not lead to health. Alternative health and Wellness protocols are often natural and inexpensive. And since no one stands to make much money off them, double-blind studies are never done on “alternative cures” such as Ionized Water. Another example is the fact that I recommend people move toward a Raw Food Diet, which doesn’t cost much at all for someone to do. However, since no one is ever going to make large amounts of money from promoting raw foods, double-blind studies are never done.

The reason debunkers and quackwatchers spend their time on these websites is because they can be quite profitable. They appear as “expert witnesses” in lawsuits and they collect large fees for doing so. In essence, the intentions of quackwatchers are not to expose scams and fraud, but to denounce anything that the American Medical Association has not blessed. The Medical establishment can say and suggest almost anything and not worry about being challenged on it.

The detoxification effects alone are enough to make you realize that Ionized Water is not like any other water you will ever consume. Ionizing water changes the water molecule grouping structure so it is much smaller, hexagonal in shape, and therefore far more penetrating and hydrating. And as it hydrates your body tissue, it pushes out all the things that do not belong in the body, which are commonly known as toxins. How water molecules group together is another thing that debunkers like to state does not happen and is so much more quackery, when in fact a huge amount of scientific research has been done on water-molecule clusters .

The debunker of Ionized Water who is found on the Internet could not have gotten it more wrong in every regard. He is a retired chemistry professor from Simon Fraser University in Canada and if he had bothered to examine the properties of Ionized Water he would have found that they are exactly as I describe them to be. He also would have found that they do exactly what I say they do inside the body. He discredits himself immensely when he states that Ionized Water is simply “snake-oil on tap”. History will humiliate him and Simon Fraser University should denounce any association with him. If they do not, then they are complicit in his denouncement of the one of the greatest health advances in human history.

Those that would attack Ionized Water as being a hoax of some sort do not understand how important it is that we consume substances that are negatively charged and possess negative ions. Those who debunk Ionized Water have never consumed it. None that I have seen have ever read my first book, Confessions of a Body Builder, nor excerpts from my second book, Achieving Great Health in 90 Days or Less. In my eight years of studying and consuming Ionized Water (1.5 – 2.0 gallons per day), I have never found anything that Ionized Water doesn’t enhance and benefit as long as it’s used properly. Read what Ionized Water has done for me . And what you can expect from drinking Ionized Water.

Many articles have been written about Ionized Water. Dr. Hidemitsu Hayashi, a Heart Surgeon and Director of the Water Institute, Tokyo , Japan , wrote a 30 page article explaining Ionized Water in great detail . Dr. Hayashi describes Ionized Water in excruciating detail, including its precise chemistry during and after ionization. All this is completely ignored by the Quack Watcher who claims to be a chemist. When we don’t understand the rudimentary principles of how something functions, some of us tend to simply dismiss it out of ignorance. This is certainly the case with the debunker of Ionized Water because anyone with even the rudimentary knowledge of its chemistry will see that Ionized Water is exactly what the body requires: higher pH, strong antioxidant, negative charge, abundance of electrons, incredible hydration and detoxification properties.

If the debunker truly wanted to know if Ionized Water actually did anything to the human body one way or another, he would need to consume some for a few days or a week, but I can assure he has not. Debunkers are notorious for never trying what they denounce. They are part of a faux-intelligentsia that believes that all science can be explained on paper and therefore there is never a reason to actually test anything in the field. This is the biggest mistake that any scientist can ever make and, by his own admission, the debunker of Ionized Water has never touched a drop of it nor used a water ionizer to draw the scientific conclusions he has made. As with many of the debunkers, closer examination of them and their methods reveals who they are and that they themselves should be debunked.


pH (potential for Hydrogen): (chemistry) p(otential of) H(ydrogen); the logarithm of the reciprocal of hydrogen-ion concentration in gram atoms per liter; provides a measure on a scale from 0 to 14 of the acidity or alkalinity of a solution (where 7 is neutral and greater than 7 basic is and less than 7 is acidic)

ORP (oxidation reduction potential): The potential for one liquid substance to reduce the oxidation of another substance as measured in millivolts (mV).

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About Bob McCauley

Bob McCauley, ND (Robert F., Jr.) was raised in Lansing, Michigan and attended Michigan State University (BA, 1980 in Journalism). He is a naturopathic doctor, Master Herbalist and a Certified Nutritional Consultant. He has traveled extensively, both domestically and abroad, visiting over 32 countries. He published Confessions of a Body Builder: Rejuvenating the Body with Spirulina, Chlorella, Raw Foods and Ionized Water (2000), Achieving Great Health (2005), The Miraculous Properties of Ionized Water, (2006) which is the only book on the market that exclusively addresses Ionized Water, Twelve (Fiction, 2007) and Honoring the Temple of God (2008). He considers himself a Naturalist, meaning he pursues health in the most natural way possible. He studies and promotes nature as the only way to true health. From 2002-2004 he hosted the radio program Achieving Great Health, which was heard by thousands of people each day. His guests included some of the most well-known and respected names in the natural health world. With the help of his father, Dr. Robert F. McCauley, Sr. (Doctorate in Environmental Engineering, MIT, 1953) they started Spartan Water Company in 1992, which sold vended water machines in supermarkets. Robert Jr. founded Spartan Enterprises, Inc. in 1993. He is a Certified Water Technician with the State of Michigan. He is also a Type II Public Water Supply Specialist and has the certifications of S-5 and D-5. The McCauley family has a long history in the water industry. Bob's father pioneered environmental issues regarding ground water and drinking water quality. He received his Ph.D. from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) in 1953 for his thesis on removing radioactive strontium from water. He earned his doctorate in Environmental Engineering in less than 2 years, one of the shortest doctoral studies in the history of MIT. He taught civil, sanitary and environmental engineering at Michigan State University for 18 years before retiring to run Wolverine Engineers & Surveyors of Mason, Michigan, for 17 years. His reputation throughout Michigan as a water quality expert was legendary. Bob worked for his father's company for 12 years learning the water business, which dealt primarily with municipalities, including water quality and sanitary sewer issues. After apprenticing with his father, Bob moved on to the bottled water business. He established greater Michigan's biggest selling bottled water: Michigan Mineral – Premium Natural Water. He was introduced to Ionized Water in 1995 and has done more to promote Ionized Water than anyone else in the industry. Bob often lectures and offers seminars on his Seven Component Natural Health Protocol . Bob is a Certified Nutritional Consultant and a Certified Master Herbalist. He is also a 3rd Degree Black Belt and Certified Instructor of Songahm Taekwondo (American Taekwondo Association).
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26 Responses to Why the “Quack Watchers” Need to be Watched

  1. j says:

    Got quite excited to see someone else sighing at the attitude at Quackbusters etc. I asked them for guidance to find me something that they believe to be true but isn’t currently accepted. They ignored that. They then debunked my question about something without any involvement in the discussion. They wish to debunk everything and get a joy out of it. They stand behind science but don’t want to socially engage in discussion of any sort. One said argues yes, the other side argues no, and nobody few bother considering both points of view.

    I’d like to be prepared for debunking so I need preparation:

    1) How does the pH change get past the acidic stomach environment?

    2) I’d like to say that double blind studies don’t always have to be expensive. I agree on the problem of incentive. We could do our own studies. For example, try this:
    Get a multimeter, electrode in each hand, measure the voltage.
    Now do some Tai Chi. I did mine for 1 minute but I recommend doing it for 5mins really, and doing it seriously.
    Now remeasure your voltage. I got a 0.2volt increase.

    ^this experiement needs to be done double blind now so that the person tested doesn’t know and the person testing doesn’t know. This is cheap and possible. How shall I design my experiment?

  2. Eric Johnson says:

    It is nice to see an article exposing the truth about the “quack watchers”

    There is a great google video DYING TO HAVE KNOWN that exposes the quack watchers. They are definitely out to steer you away from the simple truths that is given free from the Divine Creator.

  3. bob says:

    Thanks for your comments.

    1. Stomach acid and IW: http://www.watershed.net/media/pdf/ionized-water-stomach-acid.pdf

    2. Great idea. We could do things like that. They still would not be regarded as scientific studies because we are doing them ourselves. It doesn’t make them less valid, but they won’t be recognized the way they would be if a university or scientific institution conducted the study.

    Bob

  4. josh says:

    To answer one of the questions I will tell you that wild animals get arthritis and diabetes and all sorts of problems…the reason that we don’t see it in everyday life is that…they die…they are wild animals and we do not live with them, and they very selom lead normal lifespans….so the fact that you have not heard of any examples means you have not done a very ardent search…

    also ionized water loses it ions very quickly..even shaking it will change the very very minor extent of ions that you claim have amazing actions on the human body…and as someone wrote above..how actually does ions survive a pH of 2 in the gastric acid and also the myriad of mechanisms that maintain our internal ph and electrolyte balance in such narrow parameters….

    as has been said by others..if you are making a fantastic claim you need to present fantastic proof..on the contrary we debunkers study very clearly what we are debunking. The things to watch for to suspect quackery is that the claim violate all know science, there are no peer reviewed studies, the proponents claim they are being prosecuted by the establishment.

    When I was younger and more naive, I felt that perhaps most people who were supporting quack medicines honestly believe in their product ..but over time I realized that no reasonable person can delude themselves forever. As a veterinarian I have often discarded or doubted certain mainstream ideas about certain treatments or diseases..sometimes I am vindicated when good controlled studies have been done…ii seems that it is the quack sellers that never met a useless therapy that they did not like..the NIH after almost 20 years of good study have yet to find convincing proof in 99% of alternative medical approaches..

    So let us stop the foolish talk and do legitimate double blind peer reveiwed studies and prove your case once and for all

    Josh

  5. Antibabylon says:

    I noticed in all your ad-hominem attacks against “quack Busters” that you yourself never actually refute their positions… you merely attempt to paint as liars and profiteers… but you never actually present any actual peer reviewed science proving micro-clustering, and ionized water as an actual PROVEN health benefit…

    who’s the real liars and profiteer?

  6. Vince says:

    People who are practiced disbelievers cannot be made to believe in anything regardless of whatever proof is right in front of their face. You can’t believe in anything if your belief system already is set on “Everything is a Scam” with no possibility of a change of mind (belief).

    For instance a majority of “snake oil salesmen” probably had success due to the placebo effect of what they were promising. And hasn’t it already been a well know thought (except in the Quack Watch circles) that placebo’s amazingly were as effective or more so than the actual medicine in patients that readily believed it to be exactly what they needed. If the patient didn’t have any faith in any medicine or their individual chances, they usually did poorly. Not all but most. So really quackwatch.org’s pessimistic attitude of unbelief probably is doing more harm than good.

    I have receding gums very badly, and had all but lost hope due to the fact that all (ALL) dentists, or dental websites and books say it is impossible to repair the damage in any way, and that we can only hope to slow down the progression of decay. Even a few of the naturopathic dentists I have read believe that. But I came to my senses and I remembered that I have seen africans, and tribe members from the amazon river area on the cover of National Geographic of which these had better gums than I had… these people don’t even know what a tooth brush is, and never floss, yet they have better gums. So there is something natural that they have that I am missing and that dentists are missing also. I think it is the ionized alkaline water…as that reminds me of what the Hunza’s drank from the glacier runoff.

  7. VDA says:

    I am very interested in any one persons double blind studies… despite the fact that no university (or other scientifically regarded institution) will ever approve or do their own unbiased studies on this and other alternative remedies; I think that such a study which doesn’t have the scientific backing would have to have a documentary style video where the participants in the study would be interviewed, and have some proof of whatever illness they had. Testimony of other people who know that person, whatever. Where the study/video will lack in Scientific Credentials (due to the aforementioned), it will have people who are without a doubt ill (with backup to prove they indeed have some type of illness). I have looked and I haven’t found any documentaries (beyond your usual but helpful Youtube videos) on alkaline ionized water, and I think that this could be very helpful to this cause. I am not a film maker, nor gifted in setting up such a study, but what little money I have I will donate to whatever group or individual who is willing to do something like this. If there already is a documentary that is pretty good about microclustered water, then please tell me because I would like to see it and show others. I believe that ionized water is as close to a panacea as you can get in this world. Not totally but close. The documentary should discuss the quack watcher types in it…bring it out in the open. I have always envisioned the quack watcher types as the Wizard of Oz but the opposite… whereas the wizard put on a horrible persona, he really was kind hearted and caring… QW’s act like they are being kind hearted in trying to help people “not get taken in” by medical quackery, but in reality it isn’t about the people but about putting down anything that challenges currently held medical beliefs (whether right or wrong). Some may be “agents” of the medical community, others just have to stick their nose into other peoples business. So everyday I put my seatbelt on, and strap the kids in the back because of the air bag, and make the kids ride in booster seats till they are 9 because of the weight restrictions… with helmets, kneepads, and pillow strapped around the bottom. We were all safer before government, insurance, and medical agencies became so concerned for our “well being”… we were safer riding in the back of our dad’s pickup trucks with nothing holding us in except gravity…a little off topic but oh well.

    Thank you very much for this site!

  8. Jack says:

    Nobody is denouncing god. What those websites reveal is the truth. None of you have a scientific background on the subject, so how can you say that those quackwatchers are incorrect?

    I myself am trained in biology and have a degree from a respectable university and these claims about water ph and whatnot is simply playing on the subject of pH that most people don’t even know about.

    If you people want to defend the topic so much, why don’t you contact a known biochemist and see what he thinks about the subject. I can already tell you that they will outright hang the phone up on you. My biochem professor denounces these claims and it would be wise for others to do the same.

  9. Jim says:

    Truth will win out in the end. If some thing is true it can withstand scrutiny. The truth is , you can commission an unbiased study at a major University. Of course you have to pay for it . You also have to live with the results. An example that comes to mind is the product Celcius( not a indorsement ) just an example. Before the product was marketed the makers commissioned a study at a major university. Probably cost less than $50,000. They were confident in their product. Universities do recieve research grants. So why dont they want to spend money on ionized water? ( the answer to me is obvious )
    The makers of ionizing machines could easily afford to fund an unbiased double blind study. The question is why haven’t they? ( the answer to me is obvious )
    As for the statement that….. the medical establishment and university researchers are not interested in alternative medicine. I can think of several past and present examples of just the opposite. aspirin, anti oxident qualities of several berries, soluable fibers ability to boost the immune system, vitamin A derivitives thickening retinal pigment, Omega 3 fish oils, St Johns Wort and mild depression. UCLA is about to publish another study on the benefits of curcumin. The list could go on and on. There is an equally long list of anecdotal treatments that have been disproven by scientific study. As Yogi Berra says ” you can look it up”

  10. Thx for using the time and effort to craft some thing that’s invoking

  11. tony says:

    Simple test, fill 2 fish bowls with water, 1 ionized, the other tap, put a goldfish in each bowl & if the ionized water has more oxygen then the fish livin the tap water bowl should show distress first needing the water to be changed sooner. Just an idea.

  12. Leo McDevitt says:

    Want to know how alkaline water gets “past” the acidity in the stomach?

    It Doesn’t!

    Fact: After digestion, the stomach empties itself of ALL contents! This means that there is little (or no) acid in an empty stomach. At most, there is a teaspoon of acid “left over” in an empty stomach.

    Fact: Water does NOT require digestion! Water passes through an empty stomach, into the duodenum, and into the intestines, where it is simply absorbed. Your body does NOT have to do anything to water in order to absorb it.

    Fact: The intestines are an alkaline environment, this means the higher pH of alkaline water is a benefit, the body does not need to “change” it!

    Claims that alkaline water is neutralized in the stomach are nonsense. Anybody who makes that claim is a quack, and should be watched.

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  14. John Titor says:

    There is a difference between pessimism and skepticism. Science teaches us to be skeptics, meaning that we’re open to the truth and willing to follow the evidence wherever it leads us, even if it challenges our beliefs. Pessimists are unwilling to consider any evidence and simply “have their mind made up”.

    Anybody who is skeptical of the benefits of alkaline ionized water, or wants to see dozens of peer-reviewed studies demonstrating anti-cancer, anti-diabetic, anti-tumor, anti-oxidant, etc. effects just email me at [email protected]. The Scientific Method is based on direct empirical observation. If you are unwilling to consider any evidence or directly observe the water for yourself, politely keep your unfounded opinions out of a rational scientific discussion. They have no merit.

    In Truth,

    John

  15. Jay Walker says:

    The PCS-730 +/- 1 kV Charging Source is used to charge the CPM-720 to +/- 1,000 volts to measure ionizer decay and material decay. Electrostatic Meter. These three instruments are match calibrated to work together for accurate and efficient auditing.

  16. Diego Gutiérrez del Moral says:

    Could you please fix the links of this fantastic article?
    Specially these two links
    a staggering amount of research has been done on the effects of Ionized Water,

    and this one
    wrote a 30 page article explaining Ionized Water in great detail.

    Thanks for your site

  17. Shawn Pearson says:

    ?????? I am very disappointed. I have kept an open mind for at least 30 of my 48 years on this planet where “alternative” aids to our health. I didn’t have any choice for 18 years. This past year I finally had to admit to myself that not one alt treatment, that had not been backed by “real” science, helped do anything but waste my money, and in some cases actually make me ill!

    I have worked with non-human animals most of my life and can certify that very few “wild” animals reach anywhere near their life-length potential due to a number of factors. Most of them die of illnesses or because of genetic faults. Nature is very cruel, trust me. The science that you thumb your nose at has improved the life and lifespan of the human being.

    I love one of the entries, where the author actually suggests experimenting with putting a goldfish in the alkaline ionized water and one in tap water. I don’t have to kill a goldfish to tell you how that experiment would turn out in my house. One goldfish would live a long happy life, while the other would rapidly become ill and die. You guess which one is which.

    Medical science has created the healthiest humans that have ever lived. You can point your fingers at various maladies that affect the modern human, and even put some of the blame on science, but those who choose to live healthy, and even many who choose obviously unhealthy lives, are living longer and better than ever before. Ironically, we are helping those who are genetically unsound to live longer lives and to pass on these faulty genetics. Still, overall health is far better than in the not so distant past

    It irks me that I followed the link to this site, hoping to find a rational debate that would help me to believe in what I now believe is just another snake oil. I thank those of you who “attempted” to defend ionized water for convincing me. Every one of you quacked like ducks, and you know what they say about that.

    Thank you for being so ill-equipped to defend this treatment, and making it very easy for me to avoid being ripped off… again.

    Peace

  18. Eileen says:

    Dear Bob,
    I due Voluntary all creature rescue, and also pair some of these same dogs with children with disabilities. I have a young dear sweet Newfie DX with OS (bonecancer) last june. I am not young and have litterly taken all my senior savings to try to keep this special creature in cancer remission who has been the miracle for a special needs child. This dog is beyond special, and is my heart. With everything I have done , at this moment she has no idea she is as sick as she is, BUT her last chest x-rays say different. In 8 weeks from her last/clear chest x-rays, this time showed multble large tumors. Again she is still a happy tail wagging sweety. I happened upon someone who showed /told me of the Kanden(sp?) ionized antioxidant water. It sounded like the miracle I was hoping for. I was ready to take the last of my savings. But THAN chose to do some of my own research on the PC. And am now so confused. I would graciously appreciate it if you would be kind enough to email me immediately on this I know it is only a short time before her tumors do start to win and take hold of this angelic dog. It is absolutely crushing me. If using the last of my savings could give her a chance to fight this cancer into remission I would do all I could to give this to her. But it would be a substantial sacrifice overall. I am so torn and have so little time to decide for her sake. But truly have concerns. I HAVE read that what creates this oxidation in this machine and many others are a form of clorox (oxidating agent). And if this agent is in an alkaline environment, the familiar clorox odor is odorless. YET when raised to an acidic level,that familiar odor is than is quite noticeable. So what it seems to be is within this complexed machine is in fact a for of a clorox or similar. This especially caused me to go from hope to fear for this innocent creature who would swallow ANYTHING to please me. And based on some of my readings something in the molecular process of the Kanden(sp? and others similar could in fact set the motion of doing the complete opposite with tumors and send them into rapid growth mode. I am so torn here. I do hope you read this soon, and again would GRACIOUSLY appreciate you calling, or at least email me on these concerns. Even when i read up on the DVM (Edna Malonzo), it put up a red kag when searching her credentials. Almost seems as if it is the selling of this water that is her her priority, and NOT her beliefs in the product, and has again VERY questionable credentials. And to the many on the sight make their claims yet all have only a first name. How does one honestly know these are actual truths and people? And last. when researching the” Health News” It appears to be more a marketing tool tutorial more than an actual health news, and the rest lies in what I consider a pyramid scam. If this were all it claims it is, why would it be relying on a Pyramid to sell such a miraculous product if it were in fact just that? I am VERY open to new ways of helping to improve ones health, but aging in is how the company is going about it that has made me loose faith in its claims.
    Eileen

  19. Gibbs says:

    Doesn’t our bodies by nature balance itself? We haven’t gone thousands of years of evolution for nothing have we? Albiet I grew up and live in the country and think maybe the city water makes me ill, but so would the water in mexico or russia… thats a tolerance thing. I guess my point is my mother has to go dialysis ever other day to clean her blood because one of the functions of your kidneys was to remove excess acid(excess being what your don’t expel via breath and gas) from what was eaten and drank.

  20. Leo McDevitt says:

    Bob,

    I am a big a fan of the health benefits of alkaline water, but the microclustering theory of alkaline water hydration is nonsense. When water molecules stick together, they form ice.

    Ionized alkaline water hydrates better because the mineral compounds in tap water are broken up by ionization. Those elemental minerals then combine with ions from water (hydroxyl ions) to form mineral hydrates.

    All mineral hydrates act as surfactants (or emulsifiers) Surfactants reduce the surface tension of water, That is why alkaline water can penetrate cells better. It’s simple chemistry, which can be proven in a lab.

  21. Proudly Skeptical says:

    It’s called the scientific method people and it’s the arch nemesis of snake oil salemen, grifters, scammers, and the moronic sheep who are their victims. The author of this piece is no doubt somewhere in the mix. The default position of all people should be skeptical. And when science proves a skeptic wrong and they “flip flop” or withdraw their objections and criticisms – that’s exactly what is supposed to happen.

    Oh never mind, carry on. Dealing with the minds closed shut set is like trying to explain gravity to a ham sandwich.

    It’s easy to be skeptical, hard to be you?? FFS, get a grip on yourself.

    Promoting Natural Health with Ionized Water, Chlorella, Spirulina, Probiotics, Angstrom Minerals, Raw Foods. Watershed Wellness Center? No warning bells there…

  22. Barbaiani ioan says:

    Am rezultate bune dupa 2 luni de tratamentcu apa ionizata pH 8,5 la umatoarele afectiuni:
    R.L.S. (Restless Legs)
    I.R.C. ( Insuficicenta renala cronica).
    Dar la hipertensiune esentila ,au aprut cresteri dela 130 la 182.
    Este un mod de tratament pentru hipertensiune cu apa ionizata ?
    Cu sincere multumiri Barbaiani

  23. Charlie says:

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  24. Chaim Bochner says:

    I’m in the process of being healed for so called “Chemical Imbalance” depression, HA HA HA while tapering the drugs that just made it worse. This is done by ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE.

    Down with the Quack Watch. Enough damage done, Mr. doctor. BTW, in Latin the word doctor means: “TO TEACH”.

    Do no harm first Dr. Barrett…

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